OTHER FORGERIES?
THE INTERFACE
examining other possible mistranslations and forgeries:
St James Liturgy
Liturgy of St James link
The Divine Liturgy of St. James of Jerusalem (1st century A.D.), celebrated once a year in Jerusalem (and a few other churches) on the feast day of St. James, brother of the Lord and first bishop of Jerusalem, to whom this Liturgy is traditionally attributed.
so called quotes by St Ignatius,
Ignatius of Antioch: the scholars Robert Joly, Reinhard Hübner, Markus Vinzent, and Thomas Lenchner argued some of the epistles were forgeries.
"Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."
"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.
"Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ."
-"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D.
"I have no taste for the food that perishes nor for the pleasures of this life. I want the Bread of God which is the Flesh of Christ, who was the seed of David; and for drink I desire His Blood which is love that cannot be destroyed."
-"Letter to the Romans", paragraph 7, circa 80-110 A.D.
"Take care, then who belong to God and to Jesus Christ - they are with the bishop. And those who repent and come to the unity of the Church - they too shall be of God, and will be living according to Jesus Christ. Do not err, my brethren: if anyone follow a schismatic, he will not inherit the Kingdom of God. If any man walk about with strange doctrine, he cannot lie down with the passion. Take care, then, to use one Eucharist, so that whatever you do, you do according to God: for there is one Flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one cup in the union of His Blood; one altar, as there is one bishop with the presbytery and my fellow servants, the deacons."
-Epistle to the Philadelphians, 3:2-4:1, 110 A.D.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/history/early-church-fathers/ante-nicene/vol-1-apostolic-with-justin-martyr-irenaeus/ignatius/epistle-of-ignatius-smyrnaeans.html
Greek:
http://www.earlychurchtexts.com/main/ignatius/smyrnaeans.shtml
heterodox |ˈhɛt(ə)rə(ʊ)dɒks|
adjective
not conforming with accepted or orthodox standards or beliefs: heterodox views.
DERIVATIVES
heterodoxy noun
ORIGIN early 17th cent. (originally as a noun denoting an unorthodox opinion): via late Latin from Greek heterodoxos, from heteros ‘other’ + doxa ‘opinion’.
so doesnt that PROVE its a forgery?
Hmm. These sound really late. Words like heterodox and schismatic sound like glaring anachronisms.
what we proved is, that two anachronisms in your quotations is a very strong indication that if these quotations are genuine (I doubt it) and in context of Peter (he was never even in Rome) then someone is deliberately mistranslating them. Thus it seems like proof that the Orthodox church is creating FORGERIES to try to prove a link with the first church and the blasphemy of the mass
THE INTERFACE
a naivety akin to believing Reformation nativity pictures from Holland, where everyone in Israel wore contemporary Dutch clothing, were historically accurate, or Chinese pictures of Jesus as a Chinee
1) St Mark Liturgy
2) "heterodox" and "schismatic" and other anachronisms, even Justin Martyr saying "transubstantiation"
3) St Luke made the first icon
4) St Paul "had" long hair, as it mentions hair bands
5) "And this food is called among us Eucharistia [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined.,,,,//......For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh." - (First Apology, 66)
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