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1) Mary - overview.

1) Mary Mother of God.

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When confronted by Protestants with the evidence only martyrs are conscious and resurrected now. thus Mary is unresurrected and her dead body is on Earth now, the Catholics coined a new official doctrine - The Assumption of Mary (name in full Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary) - This doctrine was dogmatically defined by Pope Pius XII on 1 November 1950, in the apostolic constitution Munificentissimus Deus by exercising papal infallibility[6]  Those conscious in Hades never in the theology of Orthodoxy include Mary.


Is this too terrible to tell?

Have you ever noticed how Reformation etchings, drawings and paintings of the Whore of Babylon, often have her with a demure, pretty, even pure face? Not like a nasty lustful harlot figure?
I realised today that the Whore of Babylon, Rome, may use for her face a kind of mask of the Virgin Mary, making her the ultimate sacreligious harot figure of spiritual fornication by the melding of the antithesis of whoring around with idolatry (the mass, idols etc) yet presenting a representation of an ever virginal face of Mary as a chief distinguishing characteristic of her city and church. Horrifying!!!

1) Sinless Mary

1) Mother of God.

1) Mary as Mediatrix mediator.

2) Praying to Mary (an act of worship).

3) Mary possessing attributes of God - hears millions of prayers

4) Mary answers prayers,

4) The Dormition that is Mary Floated up to heaven 

5) Theotokos means "God bearer" and to be fair does not mean the identical same thing as the RC heresy of calling her "Mother of God". 

6) Mary never had "original sin", but they are Semi-Pelagian.

7) The perpetual virginity of Mary. 

8) Physical ovum disputes over Christ's conception.

9) Crowned "Queen of Heaven" in Revelation 12. (rubbish)

10) Ancient "Mother goddess" replacement.

11) The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk, in the year ....1287

It is a piece of brown cloth, with the picture of the Virgin and supposed to contain supernatural virtue to protect from all dangers those who wear it on naked skin. 

12) Mary hymns like Ave Maria,

13) The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX in the year....1854

The Bible states that all men, with the sole exception of Christ, are sinners. Mary herself had need of a Savior. (Read Rom. 3:23; 5:12; Psa. 51:5; Luke 1:30,46,47).

14) In the year 1931 the same pope Pius XI, reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "the Mother of God".....1931

This doctrine was first invented by the Council of Ephesus in the year 431. This is a heresy contrary by Mary's own words. (Read Luke l:46-49; John 2:1-5).

15)  In the year 1950 the last dogma was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII, the Assumption of the Virgin Mary....1950

16) Catholics - Mary did not die.

      Orthodox - Mary died.

Why is it Mary is so important. the actual "Queen of Heaven" herself, yet they contradict each other over if she died or not, yet are supposed to have hand-me-down beliefs that go back to the Apostles?

Jesus commanded we do not exalt Mary, when he said BUT RATHER blessed are they that hear the word of God and keep it.

If Jesus had no brothers

why was he called Mary's firstborn son?


In Roman Catholic Mariology, the title Mediatrix refers to the intercessory role of the Blessed Virgin Mary as a mediator in the salvific redemption by her son Jesus Christ, and that he bestows graces through her. Mediatrix is an ancient title that has been used by a number of saints since at least the 5th century.

The subject of the Virgin Mary is forever linked to the subject of what western theology calls "original sin" and "sin nature".

"And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS." Matthew 1:25. This is quite clear. After Jesus was born Joseph had sex with Mary his wife.

a) "Her seed"
There are several main theories about Mary and her ovum, a subject directly connected to what Catholics, Protestants and Evangelicals call original sin (a nature tending toward doing evil), and I think the Orthodox call this nature "ancestral sin".

That Mary was a special woman in that she was chosen of God to bear the Christ, and was a devout believer, but she was not sinless (she called God her Saviour) and she was not born of seed free of original sin, neither was her ovum free of the taint of original sin. The conception of Jesus in her womb did not therefore use her ovum, but was wholly miraculous. In other words God put Jesus within her womb without using her physical seed. The fulfilment of the Galatians prophecy about "seed" was therefore that Jesus was born from her and her seed was given from heaven and wholly miraculous. This means Jesus was born with a nature that tends toward doing good, like the unfallen first Adam, as it is conceived of as blasphemous that he would be born with a nature that tended toward doing evil, even though he never sinned.


That Mary was a very special woman, beyond all others, in herself, as she was born without the taint of original sin. This meant that in the creation of the body of the Christ in her womb, the Holy Spirit in an entirely miraculous fashion used her ovum to create the body of the baby Jesus, as the seed was not corrupted by original sin nature. The Galatians "seed" prophecy was therefore literal, Jesus was literally created using her seed.

That in order to be "tempted as we are, yet without sin" Jesus needed to be born with a nature tending toward evil, just as we are, but he entirely conquered it and never sinned once. Thus Mary was a special woman as she was chosen to bear the Christ, and was especially devout, but was born as we are with original (or ancestral) sin, and her ovum that was used to create the body of the Christ was also one with original sin nature, or ancestral sin.

How does the miracle of the incarnation of Christ compare to the miraculous conception of Isaac, who was born of a miracle, yet his seed was tainted with original sin nature?

I need to research if "ancestral sin" indicates a sin nature or a guilt of sin of past ancestors, or some other nuance.

1) Mary  Mother of God? - Mary is venerated as Theotokos (Greek: 'God-bearer') a less controversial term than "Mother of God" used by Roman Catholics, but still a title outside of scripture that is heretically used to justify praying to Mary.

2) The Dormition of Mary -  this very particular phrase, peculiar to Eastern Orthodoxy, describes how the Greek Orthodox Church has a similar heresy to Rome about the Assuption of Mary, except she died first before she floated up to heaven.

3) The Perpetual Virgin - quote "Concerning Mary’s perpetual virginity, the Orthodox Church also holds firmly to this doctrine. We firmly believe that Mary remained a virgin after she gave birth to Christ, while we reject the notion that she had other children after Him. In the case of the word “brother,” it is clear that it has meanings other than biological, as you note." unquote

In (Greek) Orthodox circles I hear 'Panagia mou!'. It's close to the same meaning as 'Mother of God', and is something the yiayiades (little old ladies) might say. ​

​Co-Redemptrix is a title used by some Roman Catholics for the Blessed Virgin Mary, as well as a Catholic theological concept referring to Mary's role in the redemption of all peoples. It has always been controversial and has never formed part of the dogma of the Church.


Mary is dead at the moment.

Mary was not a martyr. By saying “He is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, are you saying they were also "transported on a cloud into heaven"? Rather the context was Sadducees say there is entirely no resurrection, making God God over a graveyard eventually. Different subject. Mary was not a martyr so cannot even be conceived of as crying out for vengeance in Revelation. She is dead, and will remain so until the resurrection.

I believe in all 3 gospel accounts it is God speaking of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, from the burning bush at the time of Moses. That Moses was still alive (not dead and transported on a cloud to heaven) I think we all agree on. You never answered the question viz
about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, are you saying they were also "transported on a cloud into heaven"? 
thing is you are just wanting your idolatry. as there is ONE mediator between Gd and man, Jesus. How could a mortal woman hear millions of prayers at the same time? You give her the attributes of God.

All this is to give Mary the false "super power" of being able like God to hear MILLIONS of prayers at the same time. An attribute of God alone. Also only Jesus was fully man and fully God, s only he is the ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN, so it therefore denies Mary is. Jesus said in the Lords prayer to pray to GOD. Not one prayer anywhere in the bible is to anyone other than God, except in such instances as the prophets of Baal calling on their gods to burn up their sacrifice, and when the false God Baal never turned up, Elijah asked them "has he gone aside"?

Catholics usually believe she never died and floated to heaven on a cloud. But Orthodox dogmatically say she definitely died first, was resurrected, and then floated up body and soul. This dogma means the Catholics must modify their teaching and say their dogma is simply that she ascended body and soul, and you are free to believe she died, or never died, or else it blows apart their joint theory they were once one church with one set of teachings.

Evangelicals know. We have Faith. The bible says she died. Where? Hebrews 9:27.

Byzantine Mariology. Since the time of Photius at least, Marian questions had been treated in homilies. The 14th century became the golden age for Byzantine Mariology. Theophane of Nicaea (d. 1381), in his Oration for the Most Holy Theotokos, taught that the Mother of God from the first moment of her existence possessed all creaturely perfections, particularly in the supernatural order, with the plentitude of graces. She is thus the source of man's salvation, the mediatrix between God and man. But as a Palamite, Theophane exaggerated in speaking of the relations between the Mother of God and the Divine Persons. He maintained that the Palamites excelled in extolling the privileges of Mary, such as the Immaculate Conception, the divine maternity, the perpetual virginity, the universal mediation through intercession, her bodily assumption, and her royalty.

The Byzantines taught that Marian mediation implied the cooperation of Mary in the work of man's deification. The privilege is extended to all intelligent creatures, men and angels, to whom the gifts and privileges of the "new creature" were accorded. With the exception of Nicholas Cabasilas, Byzantine theology did not enter into the question of the coredemption. The historian Nicephorus Callistus, in his Synaxaria, expressed certain doubts on the Immaculate Conception. In his explanation of the Marian hymn in the liturgy that she is worthy of all praise, he added that the Mother of God had been purified of original sin by the Holy Spirit at the Incarnation, but no one imitated him until the 16th century. On the contrary, Byzantine theologians had excluded Mary from the taint of original sin, imitating the Franciscans, who maintained that as a consequence of her original purity she was created in the state of original justice.

Is Mary the "Queen of Heaven" ?


It is very significant the only time in scripture the expression "Queen of Heaven" is used is about a false goddess. It is quite obvious false making Mary into the Queen of Heaven was a ploy to syphon heathen pseudo converts into the early harlot false church, that later morphed into Catholicism and the various Orthodox churches.


The use of the image of the woman in Revelation 12 as Mary as the Queen of Heaven, is for people who do not bible study. If you look a the dreams of the prophet Joseph it is obviously Israel, Jesus is brought forth from Israel, but by the time of the ascension of the Messiah into heaven Romans 11 says spiritual Israel has become the church, with all nations, tribes, tongues kindred and peoples in it. That means it is possible that the reference to the woman later in the chapter might refer to either a politically isolated country of Israel at the end of the Age, or the church refusing the mark of the Beast going out into the wilderness and helped through God by the Earth. Symbolically the flood sent after her is an army of people, and that the water is people is confirmed in Daniel 7 and Revelation 17. Such deeper doctrinal things are not understood by the Orthodox, as they spend all their time with their noses buried in the works of cranky pseudo saints and hermits etc, which writings are satan sent to deflect them from bible study, as the vat tomes of the Talmud does to the Jews.

QUOTE: This doctrine was dogmatically defined by Pope Pius XII on 1 November 1950, in the apostolic constitution Munificentissimus Deus by exercising papal infallibility.[6]

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